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E-examiner S-student 
(0:00 – 0:20)
E: We’ve been talking about interests and hobbies, and I’d like to discuss with you one or two more general questions {Yeah.} related to this. Let’s think about the social benefits of hobbies. Do you think that so the hobbies…do you have social benefits?
S: I think so.
(0:20 – 0:45)
E: So, what kind of benefits?
S: Benefit. F so, in my case {lip smacking noise} as I was saying, I’ll, I used to go fishing. So, if I go fishing, I can relax and we will pay money for, to buy some lu, fishing rods, fishing reels, something as lures, so lure or flights. So, {lip smacking noise} I think it’s good for social.
(0:45 – 1:08)
E: I, is fishing a social kind of hobby?
S: I think, I hope, {laugh} I hope so, and social hobby {laugh}… Yeah, and it is a difficult question, I think. Well, but I, I think so honestly, {Um-hum} and s...
(1:08 – 1:33)
E: I, is it possible for people to spend too much time on their hobbies, do you think?
S: Well, I think so. Always hobby is expensive, for example, fishing rod. Well, if I go fishing, probably I have to spend for six hours, seven hours, nine, eight hours, I think. Well, all the night, all the day.
(1:33 – 1:38)
E: And why is that a problem? Why, what if people do spend a lot of time?
S: Yes, {Like} a problem.
(1:38 – 1:51)
E: Why is it a problem? Why could it be a problem?
S: Well, I tend to, I tend to think it’s not a problem for me, {laugh} but some of them has problem, of course.
(1:51 – 2:16)
E: What about for people in general? Could it be a problem?
S: Could be problem. Well… probably if someone has very good hobby, he wants to spends lo, a lot of time for hobbies. So, sometimes probably this person doesn’t want to work, I think. {laugh} {Yes} Also in my case.
(2:16 – 2:48)
E: You’ve mentioned a lot of interests that you have, a lot of hobbies that you have. Why is it important for people to have hobbies, do you think?
S: I think it’s not essential, but if we have a ho, hobbies, we c, as I said, we can relax, and we can enjoy. So, hobby, hobby always provides us good feeling, I think. And good
feeling and atmospheres, so and so on.
(2:48 – 3:22)
E: Thinking about leisure time now. In Japan, what would you say was a typical balance of leisure time and work time?
S: Well, actually, I’ve, I’ve never worked in Japan, so I don’t know exactly, but I think almost Japanese businessman has to work very hard every day. So, just for holiday, for example, on sun, just Sunday, they can spend their time f to, for hobby, I think.
(3:22 – 4:07)
E: Is it the same now as it was, say, 50 years ago, do you think?
S: 50 years ago. {lip smacking noise} Well, {lip smacking noise} I think, in my opinion, {lip smacking noise} 50 years ago… It’s difficult. 50 years ago, Japane, all the Japanese people had more time, but I think because nowadays… now in Ja, Japan, has deflation, so it’s t, too difficult to get a job now. So, we have to, we have to work very, very hard, extremely hard, so…
(4:07 – 4:14)
E: Do you think people have enough leisure time, generally in Japan?
S: It’s depend on people, I think.
(4:14 – 4:16)
E: And what about the future?
S: Future.
(4:16 – 4:19)
E: Will people have more time or less time?
S: Less time, I think.
(4:19 – 4:28)
E: Even less.
S: Yes, even less. {Yes} Almost Japanese people likes, maybe like working, I think. {laugh} Could be…
(4:28 – 4:39)
E: So, is work a kind of leisure, if they like it then?
S: Yes, but as I said, it’s depend on people.
(4:39 – 4:45)
E: Thank you very much. It is the end of the speaking test.
Pronunciation guide:
- /ɫ/: also known as the dark ‘l’, which is ‘l’ pronounced in syllable-final position
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