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E-examiner S-student
(0:00 – 0:32)
E: Now, we’ve been talking about a well-known person you like or admire, and I’d like to discuss with you one or two more general questions related to this. Let’s consider, first of all, famous people in your country. So, in Germany, what kind of people are famous?
S: Mostly sports people, I would say, like, our favorite sport’s soccer, so, yeah, people
who play the sport. And famous as well politicians, but they are not admired, or
{laughter} they are not aliked or anything.
(0:32 – 0:36)
E: So there is a difference between being famous and being admired?
S: I think so, definitely think so, yeah.
(0:36 – 0:53)
E: And politicians are only famous?
S: {laughter} They are only famous because it’s easy to blame them for everything
what happens. At the moment, we have the financial crisis in Europe. Especially
Greek and Ireland really have to suffer at the moment. And yes, easy to blame
something. You can’t blame a a soccer player, but it’s easy to blame the politicians.
(0:53 – 1:26)
E: How about movie stars? Are they also famous in Germany?
S: Yeah, they are also famous, but not the German mov, movie stars or music stars.
We don’t have a big, yeah, a big branch of this. More… yeah, American, first, yeah…
Mostly US American movie stars. But it’s hard to, yeah, it’s hard to feel… to think
that they are our role models or anything like that. They’re living on the other side of
the lake, and, yeah, {laughter} they are just in the television.
(1:26 – 1:42)
E: What about in the past? What kinds of people were famous in the past?
S: Especially in the 70s, 60s, I would say, musicians, because, yeah, of this freedom,
of this lifestyle we had there. Yeah, these, these musicians who, yeah, live this.
(1:42 – 1:47)
E: And how about the future? Can you give me a prediction for the future?
S: Definitely not bankers.
(1:47 – 2:13)
E: Not {laughter} bankers?
S: Yeah, because of the finan… financial crisis again {laughter}. And yeah, that’s a
good question. Maybe people who, yeah, serve the planet and, to, wants to s… to save
the planet, work for this world… environmentally people, I could… Yeah, would be
quite like it, because we have this theme of global warming at the moment
{Um-hum}. It’s w… well discussed and, {lip smacking} yes…
so I would s… would say that’s could be likely.
(2:13 – 2:32)
E: Now, let’s talk about celebrity culture. Often famous people are using advertisements. Can you give me some examples of that?
S: I don’t watch a lot of television, but, {lip smacking} so, television, I will see
adver… advertisements, so I can’t give many examples actually.
(2:32 – 3:13)
E: How about, how about for, instead of a product, how about celebrities being involved in, in advertising for causes or charities? Have you seen examples of that?
S: Yeah, sometimes, like, for environmentally things. I can’t name any celebrities, but
it’s quite often that they use this image. A celebrity has done something in his life, and
many people admire him for the one or the other reason. So, it’s quite a good thing
that they use celebrity, because he is a role model. Yes, stands for something, and
he stands my… yeah, for the environment or may for a product. So, the people who
admires him, yeah, wants to buy this product, wants to do something for the
environment.
(3:13 – 3:46)
E: Now, let’s, let’s change to the negatives. What kind of possible negative effects might a celebrity have on younger generations?
S: Yeah, a… as I said, they have the… they’re role model for many people. And
there’s a rocky star who was on the television the last weeks and months and go on
the wrong path and taking drugs or, yeah, just living the wrong lifestyle. Then, yeah,
the young people think “hey, it’s cool what he is doing, so he’s, he’s famous. He has
money. He’s taking drugs. So, hey, that fits together. I want do the same”.
(3:46 – 3:55)
E: So you think that his behavior actually can influence how younger generations choose to live their lives?
S: I definitely think so, yeah.
(3:55 – 4:26)
E: So do you think that a celebrity has a moral responsibility to behave in a, in a better manner in public?
S: As long as he’s famous, as he is in everyday life, he definitely has. He’s not only
he… the normal person, this… As he… If he’s at home, it’s OK what he’s doing. I, I
don’t, don’t care. But, yeah, at the mo, the, the very moment he goes public or is in
television or on the newspapers, he definitely has a responsibility because millions of people are watching what he is doing.
(4:26 – 4:48)
E: So would you say that, that there is an obligation that a person who becomes famous, they have an obligation to behave in a more ethical or moral manner?
S: Yeah. And if he can’t stand this pressure, then, yeah, he should take care that he’s
not being famous. Somehow, I don’t know whether it’s possile somehow, but,
{laughter} yeah, there is this obligation, definitely.
(4:48 – 4:51)
E: Well, thank you very much. That’s the end of the speaking test.
S: Thank you.
Pronunciation guide:
- /ɫ/: also known as the dark ‘l’, which is ‘l’ pronounced in syllable-final position
- /ø/: the German ‘ö’, which is /e/ pronounced with rounded lips
Beth’s version
E-examiner S-student
E: Now, we’ve been talking about a well-known person you like or admire, and I’d like to discuss with you one or two more general questions related to this. Let’s consider, first of all, famous people in your country. So, in Germany, what kind of people are famous?
S: Mostly sports people, I would say, like, our favorite sport’s soccer, so, yeah, people
who play the sport. And famous as well politicians, but they are not admired, or
{laughter} they are not aliked or anything.
E: So there is a difference between being famous and being admired?
S: I think so, definitely think so, yeah.
E: And politicians are only famous?
S: {laughter} They are only famous because it’s easy to blame them for everything
what happens. At the moment, we have the financial crisis in Europe. Especially
Greek and Ireland really have to suffer at the moment. And yes, easy to blame
something. You can’t blame a a soccer player, but it’s easy to blame the politicians.
E: How about movie stars? Are they also famous in Germany?
S: Yeah, they are also famous, but not the German mov, movie stars or music stars.
We don’t have a big, yeah, a big branch of this. More… yeah, American, first, yeah…
Mostly US American movie stars. But it’s hard to, yeah, it’s hard to feel… to think
that they are our role models or anything like that. They’re living onn the other side of
the lake, and, yeah, {laughter} they are just in the television.
E: What about in the past? What kinds of people were famous in the past?
S: Especially in the 70s, 60s, I would say, musicians, because, yeah, of this freedom,
of this lifestyle we had there. Yeah, these, these musicians who, yeah, live this.
E: And how about the future? Can you give me a prediction for the future?
S: Definitely not bankers.
E: Not {laughter} bankers?
S: Yeah, because of the finan… financial crisis again {laughter}. And yeah, that’s a
good question. Maybe people who, yeah, serve the planet and, to, wants to s… to save
the planet, work for this world… environmentally people, I could… Yeah, would be
quite like it, because we have this theme of global warming at the moment
{Um-hum}. It’s w… well discussed and, {lip smacking} yes…
so I would s… would say that’s could be likely.
E: Now, let’s talk about celebrity culture. Often famous people are using advertisements. Can you give me some examples of that?
S: I don’t watch a lot of television, but, {lip smacking} so, television, I will see
adver… advertisements, so I can’t give many examples actually.
E: How about, how about for, instead of a product, how about celebrities being involved in, in advertising for causes or charities? Have you seen examples of that?
S: Yeah, sometimes, like, for environmentally things. I can’t name any celebrities, but
it’s quite often that they use this image. A celebrity has done something in his life, and
many people admire him for the one or the other reason. So, it’s quite a good thing
that they use celebrity, because he is a role model. Yes, stands for something, and
he stands my… yeah, for the environment or may for a product. So, the people who
admires him, yeah, wants to buy this product, wants to do something for the
environment.
E: Now, let’s, let’s change to the negatives. What kind of possible negative effects might a celebrity have on younger generations?
S: Yeah, a… as I said, they have the… they’re role model for many people. And
there’s a rocky star who was on the television the last weeks and months and go on
the wrong path and taking drugs or, yeah, just living the wrong lifestyle. Then, yeah,
the young people think “hey, it’s cool what he is doing, so he’s, he’s famous. He has
money. He’s taking drugs. So, hey, that fits together. I want do the same”.
E: So you think that his behavior actually can influence how younger generations choose to live their lives?
S: I definitely think so, yeah.
E: So do you think that a celebrity has a moral responsibility to behave in a, in a better manner in public?
S: As long as he’s famous, as he is in everyday life, he definitely has. He’s not only
he… the normal person, this… As he… If he’s at home, it’s OK what he’s doing. I, I
don’t, don’t care. But, yeah, at the mo, the, the very moment he goes public or is in
television rr on the newspapers, he definitely has a responsibility because millions of people are watching what he is doing.
E: So would you say that, that there is an obligation that a person who becomes famous, they have an obligation to behave in a more ethical or moral manner?
S: Yeah. And if he can’t stand this pressure, then, yeah, he should take care that he’s
not being famous. Somehow, I don’t know whether it’s possile somehow, but,
{laughter} yeah, there is this obligation, definitely.
E: Well, thank you very much. That’s the end of the speaking test.
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